I'm in Styx now, fighting onward to finish the game at Epic lvl. I sold all the items and just use scrolls more. $9mil !!!! Gone! 'rrrraaaaargh'! -sniff.I think I want to sue someone to get my gold back! :) I eventually took a $9mil gp gamble and purchased a Staff that gave my pets another boost from Vitality damage. It doesn't matter how much damage they can deliver if they die to fast. I kept the rings for much of the side quest's from those in Medea's Grove during Act IV/Epic difficulty. My three 50lvl wolves, 50lvl Liche King, 12lvl Ether Lord Outsider and a Djinni were 'handily' decimated by the Centaur Hero that I faced after going thru the Formicid Queens caverns. I conclude what you appear to as well, it's not the pet 'damage' that is in question. Things went no different after that change. (+55 Def to my Soothsayer, +47 dam & 10% Phy dam for my pets) (+26 Dex to my Soothsayer, +47 dam & 10% Phy dam for my pets) In Act IV, I did use two rings here in these screens: I was given advice from many vets here in the TQ-AE forum to use pet enhancing rings and such. I also ended up relying on pets as my Soothsayer and the 'random' drops and shop items never were impressive. So I don't know what the math would be on whether that chunk of damage is better than ye olde ".of convocation" ammy, but mine is sacred so it's hard to justify replacing at this point.ĭamn the top I've found was like +40ish damage. It's just a matter of dedicated shopping.įound a couple of wraithlord rings and a pendant (they're green) at the great wall vendor, no idea where they start showing up, and haven't found a wraithlord staff yet. Without all the character stats, but I guess being able to socket them and to choose something other than elemental dmg is pretty good. The good news is that the new wraith lord tier of pet jewellery that you can find in leg is equivalent (pet-stat wise) to the black pearl set pieces. I bet if I get a single one they'll start to get much much stronger. But it might just be that I don't have any legendaries yet. Yeah they are really weak for me right now. Originally posted by Orendil:Ah okay my bad man. (He's maxed as well with his defense skill maxed. Only my lich survives and I need to spam heal him. Never said they were completely crap 0.o I just said that my wolves get insta killed when they're summoned as level 20s on Epic Typhon. Act 4 has other issues going on which means better gear is needed, for everyone. So, to me that means they are viable up to end of act 3 legendary anyway. I don't have godly gear, I came back to AE with no characters and no stash. Pet builds are helping me collect stuff I need to play other classes. Pets are good enough to play the game as it is, unmodded. This idea of pets being totally crap keeps getting repeated. I've been arguing this for a couple of weeks now, since there have been several threads made by people struggling with petbuilds, with contributors chimining in with what seemed to be misinformed or at least outdated info. All I said was that pets were not necessarily as squishy as described in the OP, since in my experience they are not remotely squishy in epic. I don't know (or frankly care) what is godtier in this game. Originally posted by Liguar:I'm sure other classes and better geared characters in general could clear faster than my pet build. Haruspex could do x5 hades as well, but they'd have to kite, or at least not stand still and attack hades x5. No kiting involved, just a straight up bloodbath. They're all dead before colossus form expires. I can do xMax x10 with x5 bosses on Conqueror easily. At the end of the day Conqueror and Haruspex are still the 2 best builds when properly geared up. With bad gear, pet builds have reasonably good performance, but when you start throwing on high end legendary items onto your builds, then pet builds get comparatively weaker to melee and ranged (bow) builds. Anyone who claims otherwise must be playing a different game, because the difference is that huge. Made my own Conqueror just to find out the difference is even larger when I start throwing on BiS gear on a Conqueror. Met a conqueror online who was using % exp gear in a few of his slots, and not even optimally geared in the slightest had over 3x the effective killing speed of my considerably better geared Soothsayer. Melee builds like Conqueror with decent gear crap all over either of my pet builds.
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